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Oh, I agree that was a stupid move on his part. I told him that myself.

That has nothing to do with this rapist in Texas though. If I caught a man raping my 5-year-old daughter, I would probably beat him to death too. That grand jury in Texas that refused to charge him felt the same way.
2013-10-07T22:07:33-07:00 Hunter Wallace
If memory serves, Heimbach was talking about a father beating someone to death who had raped his 5-year-old daughter. A Texas grand jury agreed with Heimbach:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/charges-texas-father-beat-death-daughters-molester/story?id=16612071

A Texas rancher who beat his daughter's accused molester to death moments after he discovered the man raping the 5-year-old girl, will not be charged with his homicide, officials said, as they released chilling 911 tapes of the father calling for help as the other man died.

A grand jury Tuesday decided not to indict the 24-year-old father who beat ranch hand Jesus Mora Flores to death with his bare hands, after finding the man abusing his daughter behind a barn. ...
2013-10-07T04:11:58-07:00 Hunter Wallace
Here's the Klan in Memphis back in March:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/photos/galleries/2013/mar/30/kkk-rally/63520/
http://www.commercialappeal.com/photos/galleries/2013/mar/30/kkk-rally/63571/
2013-10-02T17:06:42-07:00 Hunter Wallace
There's a huge Confederate battle flag on I-65 just north of Montgomery. It has been there for as long as I can remember. I assumed it would be like that one. 2013-09-28T15:26:29-07:00 Hunter Wallace
Personally, I prefer Richmond Divided. 2013-09-16T14:56:01-07:00 Hunter Wallace
The photos in Montgomery at the MLK church were taken in June 2012 and June 2013. I was there on both occasions. 2013-09-06T13:41:12-07:00 Hunter Wallace
“Wherever you find the negro, everything is going down around him, and wherever you find the white man, you see everything around him improving.”

- Robert E. Lee to Thomas Carter, April 15, 1865

“You will never prosper with the blacks, and it is abhorrent to a reflecting mind to be supporting and cherishing those who are plotting and working for your injury, and all of whose sympathies and associations are antagonistic to yours. I wish them no evil in the world – on the contrary, will do them every good in my power, and know that they are misled by those to whom they have given their confidence; but our material, social, and political interests are naturally with the whites.”

- Robert E. Lee to R.E. Lee, Jr., March 19, 1868
2013-09-06T13:37:56-07:00 Hunter Wallace
The funniest thing here is that the League of the South isn't even using the Confederate Battle Flag anymore at our events. 2013-09-06T13:36:19-07:00 Hunter Wallace
Do you know anything about Montgomery?

Thanks to the Civil Rights Movement, Montgomery is one of the most violent cities in America. It is actually running neck-and-neck with Birmingham this year.
2013-09-05T11:59:11-07:00 Hunter Wallace
Seeing as how I was there, perhaps I can explain:

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2013/07/15/i-have-a-dream-2/

At the 2012 League of the South conference, the festivities ended in the early evening, and after a few beers at the hotel we decided to go on a tour downtown. There are many other things to see in downtown Montgomery (such as the Little White House of the Confederacy, the Alabama State Capitol) and by the time we got to the SPLC it was getting dark.

A year later, we went back to the SPLC at the 2013 League of the South conference. This time we went during our lunch break so that we could take photos during the day. We went inside the SPLC's Civil Rights Memorial, took several photos, unfurled the Third National Flag, wrote our names on the "Wall of Tolerance," and specifically asked for Heidi Beirich to come down to see us.

After that didn't work, we went over to the MLK church and snapped a group photo, and later that night we stumbled across the spot where Rosa Parks had made her famous stand.
2013-09-04T09:51:30-07:00 Hunter Wallace
Of course.

I'm not sure what the big deal is here. I was with Matt Heimbach in Montgomery at the LS conference in 2012 and 2013. As far as I know, the VA Flaggers weren't there. I never saw Susan Hathaway there.

Matt has become more radical over the past two years. When he was at Towson in Maryland, he used to be associated with "heritage defense" groups like the SCV and VA Flaggers and paleoconservative groups like YWC.

He moved on from there to Amren, League of the South, and the CofCC. Lately, he has moved on to David Duke, American Third Position, and Stormfront, and has started calling himself a fascist, which is another recent development. The same is true of his partner in Trad Youth, Matt Parrott, who used to be involved with the CofCC.

I realize that you guys are trying to play the associations game here, but you haven't really proven anything other than the fact that Matt has become more rightwing over the past two years. This isn't news to people who know Matt in real life.

I doubt the SCV is still his cup of tea.
2013-09-03T23:15:48-07:00 Hunter Wallace
Here's a pic of Matt Heimbach standing in the footsteps of civil rights martyr Rosa Parks in Montgomery:

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2013/06/22/a-sea-of-hate/imag0554/
2013-09-03T14:19:51-07:00 Hunter Wallace
Heimbach had planned to burn the Koran on Sept. 11, but I think he changed his mind and decided to protest the US Empire's attack on Syria instead. 2013-09-03T14:18:22-07:00 Hunter Wallace
Granted:

http://www.tonypapard.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/stalin-statue-2-gori.jpg
http://www.terrerouge.com/china/Statue_Chairman_Mao.jpg
2013-08-28T18:57:19-07:00 Hunter Wallace
I've asked the SPLC the same thing.

As of this summer, there have already been more murders in Montgomery this year than there were in all of last year. Over 90% of the murderers and the victims are black males who are shooting and killing each other over neighborhood gang turf wars

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/interactive/article/99999999/NEWS/399990262/Tsunami-Violence

My website is listed as a "hate group" by the SPLC, but I have never assaulted anyone in my life, much less killed, raped, or robbed someone. Last time I checked, 100 percent of homicide arrests in Birmingham (this was June 2012 to June 2013) were black males.

Montgomery is one of the most violent cities in America because of black-on-everyone crime. It's not because there is a Confederate flag on 1-65, or because I have a Confederate flag on my website, or because of the League of the South.

Liberals are living in a fantasy world when it comes to violence. Less than a quarter mile from the SPLC, there is a sign that pleads, "Please Montgomery, Stop The Violence." The actual violence in Montgomery is almost the exclusive prerogative of the black community which voted for Obama and the Democrat Party.
2013-08-11T14:38:24-07:00 Hunter Wallace
Susan Hathwaway was recently here in Selma, Alabama at the annual Nathan Bedford Forrest birthday celebration at Fort Dixie.

I had the chance to meet her. I recognized her from all the attention she gets from the Civil War bloggers. She's a lovely woman. We talked at length about Brooks, Corey Meyer, Kevin Levin, Andy Hall, and Rob Baker. We also talked about Connie Chastain.

There is already a huge Confederate flag flying just outside of Montgomery on I-65. It has been there for as long as I can remember.
2013-08-11T14:26:57-07:00 Hunter Wallace
I've been wanting to write a short e-book called The Rise and Fall of the Rainbow Confederacy which would trace how this nonsense came into existence in the 1980s and 1990s and was projected back in time onto the historical Confederacy. Who were the key players in inventing the myth of the Rainbow Confederacy? When did the Sons of Confederate Veterans buy into this stuff? What prompted the change? How did it go down with the older members of the SCV? How was this misinformation spread around the internet? There's a great book I once read called Racial Attitudes in America; Trends and Interpretations which has a lot of polling data on how Southern racial attitudes changed in the 1980s and 1990s. Although I haven't done the research, I suspect that is why the Rainbow Confederacy was conjured into existence around that time. http://www.amazon.com/Racial-Attitudes-America-Interpretations-Revised/dp/0674745698 2013-08-10T15:34:04-07:00 Hunter Wallace
I don't see anything objectionable about what Randy Chambers is saying.

It's true that the vast majority of blacks (with the exception of a few outliers) hate the Confederate battle flag. It's also true that blacks in Selma and Memphis, not to mention the NAACP in South Carolina, are responsible for the renaming of Confederate parks, the destruction of Confederate monuments, and the removal of Confederate flags.

It's Carl Roden who is living in a Rainbow Confederate fantasy dreamworld.
2013-08-10T14:22:02-07:00 Hunter Wallace
It's unfortunate that we can't send Carl Roden back in time to lead his imaginary legions of Black Confederates into battle. 2013-08-10T14:17:50-07:00 Hunter Wallace
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We're rallying against the US federal government which 1.) refuses to enforce its own immigration laws and 2.) which uses places like Middle Tennessee and Northern Virginia as dumping grounds for refugees from the various wars it always stirring up overseas. 2013-09-11T18:30:26-05:00 Hunter Wallace
The "racist" receipt in Red Lobster in Franklin is just another leftwing hoax:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/397302/28/Red-Lobster-customer-denies-writing-racial-slur-on-receipt-
2013-09-11T17:37:25-05:00 Hunter Wallace
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Spock,

Your comments have always been approved on our website.
2010-06-23T17:59:01-04:00 Hunter Wallace
I hate this SOB. Lock his ass up. 2010-06-23T00:27:57-04:00 Hunter Wallace
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I'm going to tell Taylor about Auster and Berman. I don't think he knows about their attacks yet. 2010-02-21T17:16:57+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Email me at [email protected] 2010-02-05T03:10:02+00:00 Hunter Wallace
The Cap'n, Alex Linder, and Krystian are three different people. Krystian used to be the other Mark on OD. Cap'n and Linder hail from different states. 2010-02-04T03:20:51+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Naturally, a blog about anti-Semitism will attract Jews and anti-Semites. 2010-02-03T22:19:00+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Cap'n,

You could have chosen your words more carefully. Why didn't you use "expel" instead of "extirpate"? I think your intention was clear.
2010-02-03T22:15:18+00:00 Hunter Wallace
mnuez,

Thank you for sharing a Jewish perspective with our conclave.
2010-02-03T12:47:03+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Mark,

Of course their behavior has some genetic basis. I'm not convinced that antipathy toward Whites is one of those traits. Maybe paranoia and ethnocentrism.
2010-02-03T12:46:09+00:00 Hunter Wallace
American foreign policy shouldn't revolve around Jewish ethnic self interest. If memory serves, you are coming from Guy White's blog. A difference of opinion prevails there. 2010-02-03T12:28:24+00:00 Hunter Wallace
mnuez,

The Allied invasion of Western Europe (which was only possible because of American intervention) did liberate European Jews from the Third Reich. I never said that the U.S. declared war on Germany for that express reason. It just happens that the liberation of European Jewry was one of the effects of intervention.
2010-02-03T12:27:21+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Cap'n,

To answer your question, extermination is immoral. That's why I don't support it. Raping women increases the frequency of your genes in subsequent generations. That is another immoral action. I don't support that one either.
2010-02-03T04:03:55+00:00 Hunter Wallace
I wasn't at home this evening. 2010-02-03T04:00:03+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Are you referring to the Cap'n? 2010-02-03T03:54:46+00:00 Hunter Wallace
SJ,

1.) The steamboat, railroad, and telegraph were more revolutionary that the airplane or the automobile. After the Civil War, an epoch of protectionism replaced the earlier era of low revenue tariffs. If free trade is "inevitable" as you say, how do you explain this?

2.) Apparently, the Jews don't seem to follow their own advice about groupthink. Every year the local Jewish Federations in North America spend billions of dollars on the maintenance of Jewish ethnic identity.

3.) The only reason we have millions of illegal immigrants in this country is because the current regime refuses to police our Southwestern border. A change of government is the solution to that particular problem.

4.) I admit to harboring a dislike of Jews. I have a negative opinion of Jews as a group based on the facts that I document here. Unlike Jews, I am willing to admit that I am prejudiced.

5.) Whites don't have to suffer from non-White violent crime. That is a cost of living in an integrated multiracial society. It is optional. In a White ethnostate, 35,000+ White women per year wouldn't be raped by negroes.

6.) The easiest way to raise the living standards of the White lower classes is to increase the price of labor. Cutting off immigration, changing our trade policies, and deporting non-Whites would produce the desired result.
2010-02-02T21:42:51+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Washington and Moscow explain much of the conversion of Europe to anti-racism during the Cold War. 2010-02-02T21:15:50+00:00 Hunter Wallace
America is unusual in that has traditionally had a high level of White racial consciousness. This wasn't true of most Western nations. The closest parallels are to Britain, Australia, and South Africa. 2010-02-02T21:03:46+00:00 Hunter Wallace
The various cocktail of factors varies from country to country. I'm concerned exclusively with the United States. As you probably know, I rarely write other Western countries. Within the United States, the causes vary in each region, and within each region by each state. 2010-02-02T20:51:45+00:00 Hunter Wallace
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DK,

1.) If every single WN sounded like Jared Taylor, I am not convinced that Jews would trust us. A philo-Semitic Zionist like Rush Limbaugh is an object of loathing throughout much of the Jewish community. Jews hate Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck. They are going to dislike us no matter what we do.

2.) I was reminding Guy White of that concession.

3.) Guy White is talking about anti-Semites on the AR List. That counts as an obscure forum.

4.) The only conceivable force that could alter Jewish hostility toward White Americans is a powerful White Nationalist movement undergoing dynamic growth. An influx of millions of aracials into the ranks of White Nationalism will thoroughly marginalize people like Alex Linder. They will be a non-issue.

In a position of strength, Jews might be willing to redress our grievances. I'm willing to negotiate. I have said numerous times that anti-Semitism should not be an ideology. If Jews are willing to permanently alter their behavior, that is, become another minority like the Amish or Eskimos, we should change our views.

5.) Exclusion is a solution to a specific problem. Jews are creating cultural conditions in America (and other European nations) in which Whites are unable to flourish as a race. We are being harmed. We have every right to defend ourselves.

6.) America's negro problem was manageable until Jews began to interfere. The Jim Crow South was rock solid. There was no internal mass movement to overthrow segregation.

The 1960s were not the 1870s. Why did White Southerners defeat Reconstruction, but not the Civil Rights Movement? The American North had changed. If Yankees had still been in control, they would have made a lot of noise for a while, but ultimately would have conceded home rule to implacable Southerners.
2010-02-02T19:06:32+00:00 Hunter Wallace
1.) Global free trade is not inevitable. Anyone familar with America's long history of protectionist tariffs knows this.

2.) Whites are taught to think of themselves as guilt ridden expressive individualists. In contrast, Jews think of themselves as Jews; blacks think of themselves as blacks; Hispanics and Asians as ethnics and increasingly as a racial group. It is little wonder then that Whites are in decline in every major national institution.

3.) If we were serious about controlling our borders, it wouldn't be a problem. There were mass deportations under Hoover and Eisenhower.

4.) Very clever. For Whites, ethnic self interest in "hate." For Jews, ethnic self interest is perfectly legitimate.

5.) You are confusing two different issues. Whites will always suffer from White crime as long as Whites exists. We don't have to suffer from non-White violent crime. That is an option of which living arrangement we choose.

6.) Why are those neighborhoods substandard? In large part because immigration and free trade drive down wages for the White working class. Once again, Whites have a choice.
2010-02-02T15:52:20+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Having different kinds of people here is not a zero-sum game against whites. The USA is a big place. Sure it is. 1.) It means Whites are thrown into economic competition with non-Whites. 2.) It means White political power is deluded. 3.) It means transfer payments from Whites to non-Whites. 4.) It means a neverending series of cultural concessions to placate hostile non-White minority groups. 5.) It means the introduction of non-White violent crime into White areas. Among other things. Wherever NAMs settle en masse, they drive out the Whites by creating living conditions that Whites find intolerable. Behind this phenomenon, the Jew lurks as the instigator and ringleader. 2010-02-02T00:14:24+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Europhobia - what's that? It doesn't have the same ring to it that "anti-Semitism" does. Everyone has heard of "anti-Semitism." No one talks about "Europhobia." There is your problem right there.

It opens up a whole can of worms. We discuss "anti-Semitism" because Jews are wealthy and powerful, because Jews have a chokehold on the media, because they use their media power to demonize White racial consciousness and censor out discussions of White racial self interest.
2010-02-01T18:28:57+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Jews on the American Right tend to suppress debate about the issue. 2010-01-29T21:21:01+00:00 Hunter Wallace
The War Between the States had nothing to do with the question of non-White citizenship. The Lincoln administration spent over $500,000 trying to deport free blacks to Haiti, Panama, and West Africa. 2010-01-29T21:19:57+00:00 Hunter Wallace
A small handful of Jews criticize multiculturalism (Paul Gottfried and Lawrence Auster), but they are shunned by their co-ethnics and have no influence on the wider Jewish community. 2010-01-29T20:29:16+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Jews injected their ideal of multiculturalism into American political discourse. In the 1930s, Jews popularized "cultural pluralism" which replaced Anglo-conformity as the reigning paradigm of Americanism. Were it not for Jewish influence, "multiculturalism" would not have triumphed in the United States. 2010-01-29T20:28:28+00:00 Hunter Wallace
The Founders restricted American citizenship to Whites in the first several naturalization laws. The Dred Scott decision later clarified the legal ambiguity surrounding free blacks by declaring that non-Whites were not American citizens. 2010-01-29T20:24:04+00:00 Hunter Wallace
William James was influenced by Felix Adler. Randolph Bourne and John Dewey were influenced by Horace Kallen. The fount of multiculturalism in the United States can be traced back to late ninteenth century/early twentieth century Jews. "Cultural Pluralism" was later popularized in the 1930s by the New York Intellectuals. 2010-01-29T13:50:01+00:00 Hunter Wallace
We can start with Horace Kallen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Kallen
2010-01-28T20:02:40+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Do you really think I could openly post my opinions at the Huff Post? 2010-01-28T20:01:54+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Every Southerner has an old wives tale about how their great-great-great grandmother was an Indian. I've heard this in my own family. It is nothing more than a popular meme. The same people can't tell you who their ancestors were five generations ago, but they are certain one was an Indian! 2010-01-28T18:39:01+00:00 Hunter Wallace
The Creeks were deported to Oklahoma. Their land in East Alabama was opened up to White settlement at the same time. I live in the area and have never once seen an Indian around here. At least not an indigenous one. We have Indian peasants now from Mexico and Guatemala roaming about. 2010-01-28T18:33:09+00:00 Hunter Wallace
1.) Any number of topics.

2.) The difference within the mainstream is over details. It is true that there are a few outlier Jews that contest Israel's existence. A broad consensus doesn't mean unanimous agreement.

3.) I didn't say they were the only ones. Jews have always made intelligent use of Gentile allies. I said they "led the charge." If it weren't for Jewish influence, America would not have embraced multiculturalism.

4.) The difference is that Israel really has nukes pointed at Iran.

5.) The Huff Post censors anti-Semitic comments. It doesn't call for the abolition of the Jewish state.

6.) A White Nationalist outcome.
2010-01-28T12:04:30+00:00 Hunter Wallace
1.) It is a big deal. They are able to control mainstream political discourse.

2.) As I noted above, J Street and AIPAC don't contest Israel's legitimacy. Hence, a consensus on the topic exists within American Jewish community.

3.) Of course. I have never said that all multiculturalists are Jews. I will argue that Jewish agitators pushed multiculturalism into the American mainstream. They are the ones who "led the charge."

4.) Anti-Zionism does not necessarily entail prejudice against Jews.

5.) You said "Frontpage magazine is not a pro-Israel news source." How is Frontpage Magazine not pro-Israel?

6.) Yes. The ADL comes to mind.

7.) That's not how the Jew Power operates. No, the Jews did not force Gentiles to vote for Obama, but they used their wealth and influence to push his candidacy and frame the public debate in such a way that a philo-Semitic outcome was assured.
2010-01-27T22:42:40+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Hitler hadn't decided to exterminate the Jews in 1933. Even mainstream Holocaust historians acknowledge that. 2010-01-27T20:10:55+00:00 Hunter Wallace
1.) A broad consensus exists across the American Jewish community from the most Orthodox neocons to Reform liberals that "fighting anti-Semitism" should be a huge priority for the Jewish community.

There is some debate over exactly who can be considered an anti-Semite. Some Jewish extremists and organizations claim that an obsequious philo-Semite and Zionist like Rush Limbaugh is really an anti-Semite. That's how far they successfully moved the goal posts.

2.) There is a broad consensus that Israel should be supported. Neither J-Street or AIPAC contest the legitimacy of the Jewish state. The internal debate that goes on within the American Jewish community is over small particulars.

3.) The overwhelming majority of Jews support multiculturalism. Jewish neocons on the Right suppress debate over the issue within the political mainstream. Only a handful of outliers like Lawrence Auster or Paul Gottfried contest the matter.

4.) The term "racism" didn't come into circulation until the 1930s. The overwhelming majority of Americans were "racially prejudiced" until the mid-twentieth century. Before the FDR/Truman years, "racism" wasn't considered a social problem in America.

5.) In the Antebellum era, slaveowners were a minority of Southerners who were a minority of Americans. The Slave Power was still able to control national policy (ex. Dred Scott and the Kansas-Nebraska Act) though by using the same methods that the Jew Power relies on today.

6.) Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism are not the same thing. Tim Wise is an anti-Zionist, but not an anti-Semite. This is another example of philo-Semites moving the goal posts to create the illusion of debate. There isn't a single college in America that endorses the abolition of the Jewish state in Palestine.

7.) David Horowitz is not pro-Israel enough for your tastes? That says a lot.

8.) Obama is not pro-Palestine in any real sense of the word. He hasn't demanded that Palestinians be allowed to return to their homes in Israel. He hasn't cut off American foreign aid. He hasn't forced Israel to stop building its wall. He hasn't forced Israel to cede full civil rights to its Arab minority either.

9.) The same Jewish organizations that support Israel's Great Wall oppose the border fence along the U.S.-Mexico border that could keep out illegal aliens and drug traffickers.

10.) Barack Obama would not be President of the United States without the Jewish donors who bankrolled his campaign.
2010-01-27T20:03:40+00:00 Hunter Wallace
SJ,

1.) I acknowledge the diversity that exists within the Jewish community, but you are overstating your case here. A broad consensus within American Jewry exists on a number of topics: fighting anti-Semitism, supporting Israel, redefining Americanism as multiculturalism, fighting what Jews call "racism," and so on.

2.) In a liberal democracy, it is true that politicians must answer their constituents. Unfortunately, the masses have to get their information from somewhere. Politicians have to raise money to run successful campaigns.

This is where the Jew Power kicks into action: through censoring anti-Semitic points of view in the mass media, through defining mainstream respectability as philo-Semitism and anti-racism, through huge campaign contributions and donations to the two major political parties.

3.) Yes, I know that Arianna Huffington isn't Jewish, but her website is still controlled by Jews in the sense that anti-Semitic opinions are proscribed there. Jews don't have to control every media outlet to control the media. They just have to be powerful and vocal enough to push their ethnic agenda on a disorganized and apathetic White majority.

In the Antebellum era, slaveowners didn't control every newspaper in the Old South. Most Southerners didn't own slaves. In the North, slavery had long been outlawed in most states, but Northern politicians like Stephen Douglas advanced a pro-slavery agenda even there. The Slave Power got its way most of the time.

A minority of a minority can easily control an apathetic majority.

4.) Obama has continued the policies of his predecessors. He hasn't demanded that Israel tear down its own Berlin Wall. He hasn't demanded that Palestinians be allowed to return. He continues to shower Israel with American foreign aid even after the tragedy in Haiti.

5.) Jews put Barack Obama in the White House. Even though Jews are 2% of Americans, a majority of his campaign contributors were Jewish.
2010-01-27T13:34:22+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Kerrigan,

I disagree. The most popular political sites on the internet like Free Republic and The Huffington Post censor anti-Semitic material in both the articles they are willing to publish and the comments that are allowed to appear.

The censorship isn't 100% effective. There is some leakage through the cracks. This is another case of Jews claiming to be powerless because they are only getting 95% of what they want.
2010-01-27T13:17:07+00:00 Hunter Wallace
1.) So Israel gets to a free pass to the U.S. military industrial complex candy store? No wonder there is so much anti-Americanism in the Islamic world.

2.) Does America shower almost $3 billion in foreign aid on Turkey and Iran every year? If America's real goal is to promote democracy, why does it prop up the despots in Saudi Arabia?

3.) Hamas isn't a threat to White Americans.

4.) What are these suicidal compromises? Has Obama demanded that the Israelis "tear down this wall" or threatened sanctions against Israel like the ones that were imposed on South Africa?
2010-01-26T19:01:44+00:00 Hunter Wallace
The term "Jewish Question" predates the rise of the Third Reich. In the United States, Henry Ford and Henry Adams were critics of Jewish influence long before the rise of the NSDAP. 2010-01-26T18:53:56+00:00 Hunter Wallace
You're in the wrong place if you expect people here to be fooled by the 2% number. While Jews are 2% of Americans, they are almost 50% of billionaires and 20% of millionaires. They are the wealthiest ethnic group in America.

The JTA article acknowledges that Jews control The Huff Post: they are sufficiently powerful enough to ensure that anti-Semitic comments are deleted at that website and most others like it. This is why White Nationalists are always complaining about Jewish media control.

You are also knocking over a straw man of Jewish Power. While the Israelis haven't gotten everything they want, the Jew Power in America still exercises substantial control over U.S. Middle East foreign policy.
2010-01-26T18:52:34+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Alaric,

I get it that you consider yourself vastly superior to ordinary Whites in that you believe children must be exterminated to destroy the demonic Jewish germplasm. You also believe that one day you will be in a position of authority - perhaps after "the collapse" mysteriously takes down ZOG. There are plenty of sites where you can play Nazi on the internet. Why are you at this one?
2010-01-24T19:32:31+00:00 Hunter Wallace
No, I wouldn't ask a man with mixed children to abandon his own family. 2010-01-24T16:30:54+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Alaric,

Exterminationists are and will always remain a laughingstock to ordinary White people.
2010-01-24T16:28:43+00:00 Hunter Wallace
RW,

You are comparing apples to oranges. The Jews are not White, but they are a borderline group like the Georgians and Armenians. Ashkenazi Jews are a cline between Europeans and Arabs. A mischling isn't a mullato or mestizo by any stretch of the imagination.
2010-01-24T16:26:13+00:00 Hunter Wallace
The ADL is involved now.

http://www.adl.org/media_watch/tv/C-SPAN_Anti-Jewish_010810.htm
2010-01-22T08:04:13+00:00 Hunter Wallace
According to Kane, he is of Italian ancestry. 2010-01-20T04:43:43+00:00 Hunter Wallace
I've never used a women's restroom. Prejudice. Oppression. Discrimination. I doubt I will ever recover! 2010-01-19T04:56:01+00:00 Hunter Wallace
I'm not anti-Kunstler. Far from it, I have always considered him my favorite Jew. He is largely right about the degeneration of the White underclass. The difference between us is his unwillingness to discuss the Jewish role in America's cultural decline. He doesn't like to talk about the connection between suburbia and integration either. 2010-01-19T03:44:20+00:00 Hunter Wallace
John in rural NH,

1.) Anti-Semitism isn't a social problem in America. I don't know of a single elected politician in America (or mainstream political pundit) who criticizes Jews as Jews.

2.) Europhobia is out of control. It is perfectly legitimate and mainstream to bash White Americans. Hollywood churns out movies like Dances With Wolves, The Last Samurai, and Avatar.

3.) The purpose of this blog is to raise consciousness about legitimate grievances that Whites have against Jews. Dialogue works both ways. Jews are creating a cultural environment in America that is increasingly hostile to people of European ancestry.
2010-01-18T16:37:26+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Kunstler isn't the best forecaster. What happened to his predictions last year about Dow 4000, lynch mobs in the Hamptons, terrorism on Wall Street, and gas shortages? 2010-01-18T16:25:15+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Dax,

I started this site a month ago. Traffic was increasing here before Kunstler linked to this blog. There really hasn't been much of a spike. A few days ago, David Frum linked here from his Twitter page.
2010-01-18T16:21:50+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Dr. Doom,

Kunstler is hostile to the "roused, indignant masses" whom he likes to call the Yeast People and cornpone Nazis.
2010-01-18T16:19:58+00:00 Hunter Wallace
I'm not a Neo-Nazi. 2010-01-18T13:22:07+00:00 Hunter Wallace
All new commentators have to go through the comment filter. It is the default setting on WordPress blogs. 2010-01-18T10:29:02+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Martin and Dr. Doom,

I haven't seen this regularity you speak of in Kunstler's columns. His favorite targets are clearly White suburbanites, White conservatives, and the White underclass. I've been reading him for years now.

Kunstler is another run-of-the-mill Jewish cultural critic. I've seen hundreds of others like him: people who trash White Christians with the most vitrolic rhetoric imaginable, but who never hesistate to cry anti-Semitism when Gentiles offer the mildest criticisms of Jews.

A good example of this is his treatment of the Jews at Goldman Sachs. His concern is not the financial damage his co-ethnics have inflicted upon the country, whom he had ample opportunity to criticize, but rather the possibility of a backlash by the White rubes out in flyover country.
2010-01-18T08:06:52+00:00 Hunter Wallace
I've never seen Kunstler poke fun at the black community. 2010-01-18T01:53:24+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Under Jim Crow, White Southerners had a stronger racial and cultural identity. 2010-01-18T01:51:47+00:00 Hunter Wallace
There are some elements of europhilia in Kunstler's writing. He seems to like pre-WW2 New England. At the same time, Kunstler hates the South. I will give him credit though for poking fun at the SPLC building in Montgomery. 2010-01-16T11:34:44+00:00 Hunter Wallace
If I had compared the Jews to bacteria, how do you suppose Kunstler would have reacted? He would be calling me an anti-Semite. 2010-01-16T11:27:27+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Chris,

You have arrived at this blog with several misconceptions. Obviously, you haven't taken the time to read much of what has been written here.

1.) I don't hate James Howard Kunstler. In fact, I agree with him on most issues. If I disliked Kunstler, I wouldn't have spent years reading his books and blog or listening to his radio show.

2.) I don't hate the Jews because of their intelligence. That happens to be one of their more admirable characteristics. We resent Jews for the some of the ways they have applied their intelligence.

3.) It is flatly untrue that Jewishness is a cultural and religious category that has nothing to do with race. Israel certainly doesn't take that position. Neither does the Orthodox community in the United States.

4.) I don't object to cultural criticism of the White underclass per se. In fact, I am inclined to agree with several of Kunstler's criticisms.

5.) Why doesn't Kunstler criticize blacks, Jews, and Hispanics? Why does he single out Whites? Blacks are more obese. They have weaker families. They eat more fast food. The listen to rap music which is even more degenerate than pop. They are less intelligent and less educated than White conservatives.

6.) I haven't written a word about Nordicism on this blog.
2010-01-16T11:24:20+00:00 Hunter Wallace
I also judge people as individuals. 2010-01-16T05:35:42+00:00 Hunter Wallace
A new blog entry:

http://antisemitica.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/kunstler-on-antisemitica/
2010-01-16T01:59:32+00:00 Hunter Wallace
There is a difference. I'm willing to admit that I am prejudiced against Jews. OTOH, I have never used the sort of language here that Kunstler uses to attack Whites.

If I used Kunstler's rhetoric to attack blacks or Hispanics, I would be called a racist. If I used it to attack Jews, I would be called an anti-Semite. Kunstler attacks Whites all the time, but no one points out that he is anti-White.
2010-01-16T01:18:14+00:00 Hunter Wallace
No. Your comments got stuck in the filter for some reason. 2010-01-08T19:19:54+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Have you read the book? 2010-01-07T20:02:02+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Lately, I have enjoyed posting here a lot more than at OD.

- AS has an aesthetic harmony that OD lacks. It is dedicated to a single issue. The posts here have the appearance of building upon each other.

- There is a much smaller commentariat. As a consequence, I don't have to constantly waste my time dealing with pissing contests.

- There is no gossip, soap operas, or sniping here.
2010-01-05T02:47:16+00:00 Hunter Wallace
I still agree with every bit of that. 2010-01-04T19:52:02+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Mike,

Thanks for alerting me to that thread. There are hundreds of comments there.
2010-01-02T21:16:22+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Some pretty surprising numbers. 2010-01-01T01:10:01+00:00 Hunter Wallace
I didn't realize he had posted about it. 2009-12-31T20:51:32+00:00 Hunter Wallace
I'm 29 years old. I was born in 1980. 2009-12-22T12:39:49+00:00 Hunter Wallace
Antisemitica is another one of my discourse poisoning efforts. 2009-12-12T01:37:02+00:00 Hunter Wallace
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I liked wood vs. termites. I’ve heard Jews compared to locusts. I like that one too.

2009-12-17 13:15:36 Hunter Wallace

We are no beyond the point of no return in the USA. Maybe we could have voted our way out of this 20 years ago. It’s too late for that now. We have to establish a power base somewhere. Our best prospects are still in the Deep South: Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, and South Carolina.

Take over a few states. Force a showdown with the federal government. Hope for the best.

2008-02-11 23:11:59 Prozium
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Nice setup. The banner is great. 2009-12-03T09:14:59+00:00 Hunter Wallace
This brings to mind Jefferson's prescient comment that the memory of slavery and racial discrimination will forever divide us into "parties," even if those grievances have long since been laid to rest, and that separation or subordination (we have the wolf by the ears ...) are necessary to preserve civilized white communities. How do you interpret "Black in America" in light of your fellow feeling of common citizenship with negroes? 2008-07-28T18:24:54+00:00 Prozium
We can also be charitable towards blacks because they are our neighbors. There is all the difference in the world between the blacks who live down the road out here in the countryside, who still adhere to traditional rural Southern culture, and the degraded "consumers" of all races in the cities.

Zmirak an urban, Northern, Catholic Irish-Croat monarchist. It is not really surprising that he rejects the traditional values of rural, Southern, Anglo-American Protestant republicans. I always get a good laugh though in how he condemns the identity of others by asserting the universality of his own peculiar identity and sociology.
2008-07-04T18:52:26+00:00 Bradley Dean Griffin
I'm also a resident of Alabama, although I live in the Black Belt, not in Southern Appalachia. The demographics of my county are roughly 50% black/50% white. A few days ago, a friend of mine (who lives next door to some blacks) had a burglary in his truck overnight. Normally I wouldn't bring this up, but the commentator above seems to be denying the existence of a positive correlation between race and crime. 2008-06-30T19:18:59+00:00 Bradley Dean Griffin
True. AA is another form of "bread and circuses" designed to shut up disgruntled minorities. Business is America's business. 2008-02-11T21:59:39+00:00 Prozium
Don't expect an apology to be forthcoming. "Civil rights" is nothing more than a scam for race activists like Sharpton and Jackson to push their own agenda at the expense of the white majority. It is sustained by the white millenarian delusion that at some distant point in the future "we're gonna all come together" and "race will cease to matter." 2008-02-11T04:40:31+00:00 Prozium
"Race doesn't matter. Ethnicity doesn't matter. Religion doesn't matter. Gender doesn't matter."

I'm voting for Obama because he is black!

I'm voting for Romney because he is a Mormon!

I'm voting for Huckabee because he is an evangelical!

I'm voting for McCain because he is a veteran!

I'm voting for Hillary because she is a woman!

We are the first universal nation. We are beyond tribalism - LOL!
2008-01-24T21:01:42+00:00 Charlie Prince
I'm having second thoughts on Huckabee. He seems to be making progress on immigration. Rush Limbaugh is claiming that Huckabee will destroy the GOP if he wins the nomination. In the long run, would that be such a bad thing?

The pro-business interests who dominate the GOP have been the driving force behind "comprehensive immigration reform" and "free trade" globalization. They are more opposed to Huckabee than Hillary or Obama (without evangelical voters, they lose their grip on power). Romney is their backup candidate to Giuliani.

If Romney wins the nomination, we get more of the status quo - the "conservative coalition" reunites, "social conservatives" return to the back of the bus. Although Romney sounds tougher on immigration than Huckabee, this could always change after he gets elected. Reagan, Bush Sr. and W. all worked to loosen our immigration laws. Would Romney be any different?

Romney strikes me as a fiscal conservative from a New England state. He will probably turn out to be another Bush Sr. in office. I don't think Huckabee has a realistic chance in the general election, but it would be interesting to see how the pro-business wing would react if he won the nomination. Would they back an evangelical candidate who prioritized social issues over their economic interests? Would they throw their support behind Hillary or Obama to stop Huckabee?

Ideal scenario: a realignment of American politics. The pro-business wing of the GOP, racial minorities, and social liberals make common cause. Social conservatives, Northern working class voters, and racialized whites coalesce in a new coalition resembling the old Democratic Party.
2008-01-17T04:18:10+00:00 Prozium

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This is amusing.

1.) Anti-racists argue that “race doesn’t exist.”

2.) OTOH, anti-racists argue that “racial diversity” is inherently a good thing and should be encouraged. The underlying assumption is that whiteness is inherently pathological.

3.) Anti-racists demand affirmative action programs and diversity initiatives to increase the number of non-Whites in our universities.

So, races are impossible to classify and identify, but we need more non-Whites on college campuses!

2009-11-09 05:13:58 Hunter Wallace

You forgot to mention that liberal progressive Democrats are all for globalization and “free trade” while the racist, isolationist, anti-Semitic Buchananites are its most outspoken critics. I haven’t seen ObamaMessiah left a finger yet to change our disastrous trade policies.

2009-11-04 22:57:43 Hunter Wallace

No1KState,

A “reversal of fortunes” is an apt description of the fate of Whites in postcolonial Africa.

2009-10-29 20:09:00 Hunter Wallace

jwbe,

The overwhelming majority of human history is a chronicle of various groups exterminating each other, struggling for advantage, winning and propagating their genes. This is the primary reason other hominid species failed to survive into the modern era.

2009-10-29 20:07:06 Hunter Wallace

I’m the owner of Occidental Dissent. For the record, I don’t run a “white supremacist” website.

1.) I believe in a spectrum of racial differences, not a vertical racial hierarchy.

2.) We’re not trying to restore Jim Crow. I support the creation of a White ethnostate in North America that would exclude all non-Whites.

2009-10-29 20:00:09 Hunter Wallace

Millions of Whites give lip service to the PC line on race. In private, they don’t believe any of it. This is why the comment sections of online newspapers and magazines are always filled with “racist” comments.

2009-10-27 22:26:41 Hunter Wallace
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"A mature pro-white political philosophy must recognize and incorporate the strengths of liberalism even as it rejects its errors."

Actually, what you are advocating here is a return to the past; to an antiquated version of racialism that was discredited in the Second World War. My response is that "liberal race realism" has already been tried. It collapsed due to its own internal schizophrenia on the race question.

A mature pro-White movement has no use for liberalism. History has proven that liberalism is corrosive of White racial consciousness. Anyone can see how Lindsay wrestles with the issue here. White masochism now reigns in every Western country where liberalism has triumphed. Why preserve such a sick, disgusting anti-White ideology when more palatable alternatives are available?
2009-08-30T13:23:32-08:00 Prozium
OneSTDV is Greek/Romanian. 2009-08-27T13:41:51-08:00 Prozium
The point about whether or not an independent black state in the South would be a success can be resolved quite easily. Just drive from Greene County, AL to Macon County, AL. Take a route through all the red counties on this map:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Belt_(region_of_Alabama)

Visit all the crime ridden, decaying towns that have been ruined by "progressive" decisionmakers in DC and inept negro rule. The Voting Rights Act and the Brown decision forced the Whites in these counties to either withdraw from public life, send their kids to private schools or abandon the area altogether.

For the record, I grew up in this area, still have family there, and live close by on the Georgia side of the Alabama border.
2009-08-23T09:39:53-08:00 Prozium
A parallel society was created for them. Blacks had their own institutions. Tuskegee University is right up the road from here. 2009-08-22T12:59:58-08:00 Prozium
To answer your question, Southerners explicitly believed that America was a "white man's country." The law reflected that belief. We had our own institutions: public schools, universities, restaurants, recreation areas.

In hindsight, the wildest claims of the segregationists turned out to be true: in the Black Belt, black voting rights translated into black rule and all its associated problems; an epidemic of black-on-white rape beyond the most lurid warnings of Bilbo; integration failed to erase the racial gap in test scores; miscegenation skyrocketed; blacks brought their sordid underclass culture into our public schools and neighborhoods where it rubbed off on white students; public housing and welfare utterly failed to uplift ghetto blacks to the white level.

Blacks are 14th Amendment citizens. The Reconstruction amendments and federal civil rights laws of that era were imposed on the Southern states at gunpoint by a military dictatorship. We didn't create our society with black citizenship or equal rights in mind. This was wholly the work of outsiders.
2009-08-22T09:58:14-08:00 Prozium
Housing projects were a "progressive" idea too. 2009-08-05T10:48:20-08:00 Prozium
Keep up the good work. 2009-07-27T00:25:22-08:00 Prozium
"I’m convinced that Jewish hypocrisy is a major driver behind anti-Semitism."

Well, duh.
2009-07-20T08:12:07-08:00 Prozium
Here's some more of Constantin von Hoffmeister's work:

http://nationalfuturism.org/storyi.html


I pull down my pants, so that the ants can enter my anus. The tickling sensation of the ants entering my anus makes me giggle. I am sure I read somewhere that having ants settle down inside your body will make you less of an individualist prick. I want to belong and the ants entering my anus will help me achieve this goal. Finally I shall become a member of the group that I am a part of. My ethnic interests demand that I subjugate myself to the process of having ants enter my anus. The ants form a collective. One of them grows really large, and Clint Eastwood as the pilot of a fighter jet has to destroy it.
2009-04-30T11:09:39-08:00 Prozium
1.) Jews do control Hollywood.

2.) Jews do wield enormous influence in the U.S. news and entertainment media. They really are vastly overrepresented.

3.) Jews do use their media power to advance their ethnic interests.

4.) The Jewish Lobby near controls U.S. Middle East foreign policy.

5.) Jews were the vanguard of the Civil Rights Movement.

6.) Jews have been the leading agitators in undermining the concept of race.

7.) Over half of America's billionaires are Jews.

8.) Jews are the financiers of the Democratic Party.

The "Nazis" are right about all of the above.
2009-01-27T08:23:47-08:00 Prozium
1.) There is nothing immoral about racial discrimination. This is only a popular opinion.

2.) MLK was a philanderer and plagiarist. He was closely associated with men who had known ties to Communism (Levinson and Rustin). These charges are all true.

3.) "Human rights" are social conventions. They are not derived from the nature of reality. Instead, "human rights" evolved from the earlier discourse about "natural rights" which evolved from the "rights of Englishmen."

4.) MLK was a supporter of racial preferences for negroes. He used the rhetoric of colorblindness to advance the interests of his race. Then he discarded it. This inconvenient fact has been forgotten by most conservatives. At bottom, MLK was a race advocate.

5.) MLK was not a saint and should not be treated as one.
2009-01-20T11:38:43-08:00 Prozium
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roro80,

You are either a moron or not at all familar with WW2 history. Adolf Hitler never had any desire to conquer and rule over Europe and North Africa. He didn’t want a war with Britain and France either. It was Britain and France that turned a localized border dispute with Poland into a World War by declaring war on Germany.

2009-06-24 20:27:00 Prozium
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Nerd,

I can declare that I have a “right” to a harem of beautiful women. It would still be nothing more than an empty, baseless, arbitrary assertion. “Human rights” are nothing more than social conventions backed up by force.

2009-01-19T12:50:55 The Observer

MLK’s “I Have a Dream” speech was mere rhetoric. King himself was a supporter of racial quotas. He was entirely favor in judging others based on the color of their skin.

2009-01-19T12:47:44 The Observer

#658

1.) Re: Founders. In other words, I made an unimpeachable point.

2.)I see no evidence of universal objective moral principles comparable to natural laws.

3.) Abraham Lincoln was a racist who spent years plotting to deport negroes to Africa and Latin American.

4.) White Americans enjoyed full political, civil, and social rights for centuries without extending them to negroes. The existence of rights, which are mere social conventions, does not imply their universality.

2009-01-19T12:35:45 The Observer

Tom,

The Reverend MLK also engaged in serial adultery. This was exposed by his close associate Ralph Abernathy in his book. As for James Bevel, he was a child molestor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bevel

2009-01-19T12:24:59 The Observer

PC,

I’m not from Stormfront. I come here to read Gene Expression.

2009-01-19T12:16:56 The Observer

#595

1.) You have no serious objection to racial consciousness, racial distinctions, race advocacy, racial pride – negroes engage in all of the above, in public with great fanfare, and you applaud them for it. The same is true of Jews, Hispanics, Asians, homosexuals and other minorities. As I said above, it is only when the white majority engages in these things that you complain. Simply put, you are anti-white.

2.) Liberals insist that race is nothing but a “social construct,” but immediately relapse into making racial distinctions in everyday life that corresponds to those of traditional physical anthropology.

3.) Your cherished belief that racism is evil amounts to nothing more than an opinion.

4.) Your points are trivial. The ability of liberals to make racial distinctions undermines their claim that racial categories are too ambiguous and thus purely social conventions.

2009-01-19T12:14:10 The Observer

#593

I think Indian Removal was a great policy. It allowed my ancestors to settle on land which had previously been occupied by the Creek Indians. I still own some of that land today. As a child, one of my favorite hobbies was collecting Indian artifacts like arrowheads, scrapers, and pottery.

2009-01-19T11:57:23 The Observer

#17

Where do “human rights” come from?

2009-01-19T11:34:53 The Observer

#61

The Founders didn’t share your belief in racial equality. They only sought to replace a monarchial order with a republican one.

2009-01-19T11:27:23 The Observer

Jadehawk,

Nice straw man.

2009-01-18T19:04:18 The Observer

Leigh Williams,

1.)Bullshit. Rich does portray Obama’s election as a racial accomplishment. Liberals tell us over and over again with great pride that he is the “first African-American president.” They have no principled objection to racial pride, race consciousness, racial distinctions, or race advocacy. Their real objection is solely to white people who engage in this type of thinking.

2.) Liberals always emphasize two trivial points:

– The various races shade into each other.
– The boundries between races are socially defined.

Note: This has been known since the days of Blumenbach and Linnaeus.

… and announce with glee that “race doesn’t exist.” Ironically, these very same people then relapse into making racial distinctions: he’s “black,” he’s “white,” she’s “Asian,” in everyday life. That’s one reason why I can’t take them seriously.

3.) Andrew Jackson was a great president.

2009-01-18T19:02:30 The Observer

Re: Frank Rich

1.) I’m struck by the way Rich unconsciously portrays Obama’s election as a wonderful example of racial pride and achievement. Whites alone are now forbidden by contemporary racial etiquette to think in such terms.

2.) The same liberals who insist “race doesn’t exist” seem to have little difficulty making racial classifications – how odd.

3.) Obama is merely the latest in a long line of negro leaders – Kwame Nkrumah, Mugabe, Nelson Mandela, Idi Amin, Emperor Bokassa, Mobutu Sese Seko, Jomo Kenyatta, Hastings Banda, etc.

2009-01-18T17:35:17 The Observer

I’m not a paleoconservative.

2009-01-18T17:18:10 The Observer

Leigh Williams,

The term “racism” didn’t enter the English language until 1936. “Racism” wasn’t widely regarded as a social pathology in the West until a few generations ago. This insistence on the morality of non-discrimination is an even more recent innovation.

The major advantage of historical literacy is a heightened awareness of the fashionable trends and prejudices of one’s own times. I see little of this amongst liberals and progressives who regard artifacts of a passing phase of their own culture as a universally valid moral principle rather than mere opinion.

2009-01-18T17:10:52 The Observer

Leftist Bozo,

I haven’t said anywhere that colored people, uhm, or as you would say, “people of color” (this phrase was popularized in the 1980s), are racially inferior.

2009-01-18T16:52:15 The Observer

#531

1.) Yes, I follow American Renaissance, VDARE, Majority Rights, Steve Sailer, etc.

2.) I’m not an ideologue. I believe all religions and secular ideologies (including liberalism and humanism) are ultimately baseless.

3.) I’m familiar with Rushton, Lynn, Harpending, Cochran, Lahn, etc., but not really interested in their work.

2009-01-18T16:32:21 The Observer

Nerd,

I’m somewhat amused by how seriously you people take yourselves. You cling to your moral convictions re: race with all the ferocity of holy rollers. I guess I can’t understand how any historically literate person could do so.

2009-01-18T16:07:18 Observer

Isn’t it odd how liberals deny the existence of race, but insist on celebrating racial diversity?

2009-01-18T15:44:48 Various Observers

#533

I’m not a “radical traditionalist” or a “third positionist.” Also, I never bothered to read Evola or Pound. I have a low opinion of ideologues.

2009-01-18T15:10:29 Various Observers

#547

1.) I grew up in an area that is 50% white/50% negro.
2.) My views on race are based on personal experience.
3.) Re: social group. Yes.
4.) I have a blog.
5.) I voted for Ron Paul in the primaries. In the general election, I held my nose and voted for Chuck Baldwin solely because of his position on immigration.

2009-01-18T15:02:51 Observer Returns

My personal favorite is Emperor Jean-Bédel Bokassa. Meredith has a good profile of him in his book.

2009-01-17T19:21:44 Various Observers

#511

Robert Mugabe is another accomplished African leader. If I recall correctly, he has more degrees than Barack Obama.

2009-01-17T19:13:51 Various Observers

Colonialism is responsible for the poverty and backwardness of Ethiopia? That’s news to me.

2009-01-17T18:55:25 Sarcastic Observer

Jadehawk,

Where precisely does one “culture” become another?

2009-01-17T18:40:30 Sarcastic Observer

jack lecou,

1.) Your values exist within the framework of an ideology (liberalism) that has a long history.

2.) The Anglo-American race hierarchy wasn’t replicated in Latin America which was also enslaved and colonized.

3.) Hollywood aside, I haven’t seen this shattering of racial stereotypes. Sub-Saharan Africa is a basket case. Haiti is a failed state. Negroes are still typically less intelligent than whites and Asians.

2009-01-17T18:37:11 Kinda Bored Observer

Reader5000,

Please name all the distinct cultures that exist within the human species. Oh, thanks in advance.

2009-01-17T18:26:00 Bored Observer

Jadehawk,

Against the backdrop of human history, the level of “social equality” we see in the United States does not have many historical precedents. The identification of morality with non-discrimination is very fashionable, but also novel. That’s why it strikes me as “weird.”

2009-01-17T16:24:15 The Laughing Observer

Jadehawk,

I don’t believe that values or ultimate ends are derived from reason or natural science.

2009-01-17T16:11:11 The Laughing Observer

Jadehawk,

My point is this weird belief in “equality” is a tradition; to be exact, a republican one. I’m assuming you were raised in this tradition.

2009-01-17T16:05:47 Laughing Observer

Brownian,

Re: blood groups. IMO we could definitely do that one to. We can imagine a society that discriminated along those lines. That would be a fun scenario.

2009-01-17T15:59:54 Laughing Observer

“what’s your point exactly?”

I like to study the past and imagine other possibilities. I’m not impelled to demonize cultures other than my own.

2009-01-17T15:55:50 Laughing Observer

Jadehawk,

You’re attacking a straw man. I said nowhere that something is “good,” in the objective sense, because it is traditional or customary. I simply noted that your reverence for “equality” struck me as a custom which I compared to animal sacrifice in some cultures.

2009-01-17T15:51:32 Laughing Observer

Brownian,

If your values don’t come from natural science, where do they come from?

2009-01-17T15:45:43 Very Amused Observer

Travis,

We could easily pick something else. For example, we could judge people on the basis of the color of their skin plus other characteristics such as facial and skelatal morphology and hair texture.

2009-01-17T15:41:48 Laughing Observer

Jadehawk,

Human history is a chronicle of violent tribalism. I don’t see in-group altruism as evidence of any universal moral principle of non-discrimination.

2009-01-17T15:35:27 Laughing Observer

Jadehawk,

I’m neither a theist or a creationist. I haven’t seen any evidence that God exists. Similarly, I don’t see any evidence that leads me to believe that we should treat all races equally. This strikes me as a liberal superstition. It evolved out of the earlier Christian belief that humans are equal in the sight of God. The Quakers were amongst its first practicioners.

2009-01-17T15:29:26 Laughing Observer

Jadehawk,

Natural science has nothing to tell us about ethics. Skin color is a commonly cited morphological racial difference. Why shouldn’t we judge people based on the color their skin? It was once customary to do so.

2009-01-17T15:24:43 Amused Observer

The Founding Fathers were well acquainted with the theory that racial differences are environmental. Unlike Darwinism, it has an ancient pedigree. The abolitionists frequently made use of it in their propaganda during the 1790s.

2009-01-17T15:19:23 Amused Observer

Jadehawk,

We’re discussing moral beliefs here, not physiological differences.

2009-01-17T15:14:36 Amused Observer

Sorry, my error there.

2009-01-17T15:12:24 Amused Observer

Leftist Bozo,

I’m not following your reasoning. I don’t see how equal treatment is derived from the condition of being a Homo sapien. It sounds more like a custom to me. Animal sacrifice would be another example.

2009-01-17T15:10:40 Amused Observer

Brownian,

What is the basis of this moral belief in equality? Why should someone believe in equality as opposed to inequality?

2009-01-17T15:01:07 Brownian

Badger3k,

Do you acknowledge that the United States was founded by men whom you would call “racists”?

2009-01-17T14:55:02 Amused Observer

Leftist Bozo,

Your belief in “equality” is as arbitrary and baseless as the most deranged evangelical who believes dinosaurs were on Noah’s Ark.

2009-01-17T14:51:11 Amused Observer

Ignorant of what?

2009-01-17T14:30:08 Amused Observer

Just an observation: the liberals here cling to their substitute god (equality) even more tenaciously than even the most deluded followers of Ken Ham and Kent Hovind.

2009-01-17T14:26:47 Amused Observer

Sure.

Prejudice – Where to start? How about the accusation that ‘race realists’ are scum, hillbillies, white trash, rednecks, Kluxers, Neo-Nazis, etc.

Bigotry – A bigot is someone who is “intolerant of opinions, lifestyles or identities differing from his or her own.” The incivility of the commentators above speaks for itself.

Stereotypes – You’re Nazis, trailer trash, rednecks and so on.

2009-01-17T14:21:26 Amused Observer

I read through the first 100+ comments on this thread. What struck me immediately was the sheer volume of bigotry and prejudice, epithets, closemindedness, insults, and stereotypes of the liberal commentators.

2009-01-17T14:06:22 Amused Observer
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Nerd,

I can declare that I have a “right” to a harem of beautiful women. It would still be nothing more than an empty, baseless, arbitrary assertion. “Human rights” are nothing more than social conventions backed up by force.

2009-01-19 12:50:55 The Observer

MLK’s “I Have a Dream” speech was mere rhetoric. King himself was a supporter of racial quotas. He was entirely favor in judging others based on the color of their skin.

2009-01-19 12:47:44 The Observer

#658

1.) Re: Founders. In other words, I made an unimpeachable point.

2.)I see no evidence of universal objective moral principles comparable to natural laws.

3.) Abraham Lincoln was a racist who spent years plotting to deport negroes to Africa and Latin American.

4.) White Americans enjoyed full political, civil, and social rights for centuries without extending them to negroes. The existence of rights, which are mere social conventions, does not imply their universality.

2009-01-19 12:35:45 The Observer

Tom,

The Reverend MLK also engaged in serial adultery. This was exposed by his close associate Ralph Abernathy in his book. As for James Bevel, he was a child molestor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bevel

2009-01-19 12:24:59 The Observer

PC,

I’m not from Stormfront. I come here to read Gene Expression.

2009-01-19 12:16:56 The Observer

#595

1.) You have no serious objection to racial consciousness, racial distinctions, race advocacy, racial pride – negroes engage in all of the above, in public with great fanfare, and you applaud them for it. The same is true of Jews, Hispanics, Asians, homosexuals and other minorities. As I said above, it is only when the white majority engages in these things that you complain. Simply put, you are anti-white.

2.) Liberals insist that race is nothing but a “social construct,” but immediately relapse into making racial distinctions in everyday life that corresponds to those of traditional physical anthropology.

3.) Your cherished belief that racism is evil amounts to nothing more than an opinion.

4.) Your points are trivial. The ability of liberals to make racial distinctions undermines their claim that racial categories are too ambiguous and thus purely social conventions.

2009-01-19 12:14:10 The Observer

#593

I think Indian Removal was a great policy. It allowed my ancestors to settle on land which had previously been occupied by the Creek Indians. I still own some of that land today. As a child, one of my favorite hobbies was collecting Indian artifacts like arrowheads, scrapers, and pottery.

2009-01-19 11:57:23 The Observer

#17

Where do “human rights” come from?

2009-01-19 11:34:53 The Observer

#61

The Founders didn’t share your belief in racial equality. They only sought to replace a monarchial order with a republican one.

2009-01-19 11:27:23 The Observer

Jadehawk,

Nice straw man.

2009-01-18 19:04:18 The Observer

Leigh Williams,

1.)Bullshit. Rich does portray Obama’s election as a racial accomplishment. Liberals tell us over and over again with great pride that he is the “first African-American president.” They have no principled objection to racial pride, race consciousness, racial distinctions, or race advocacy. Their real objection is solely to white people who engage in this type of thinking.

2.) Liberals always emphasize two trivial points:

– The various races shade into each other.
– The boundries between races are socially defined.

Note: This has been known since the days of Blumenbach and Linnaeus.

… and announce with glee that “race doesn’t exist.” Ironically, these very same people then relapse into making racial distinctions: he’s “black,” he’s “white,” she’s “Asian,” in everyday life. That’s one reason why I can’t take them seriously.

3.) Andrew Jackson was a great president.

2009-01-18 19:02:30 The Observer

Re: Frank Rich

1.) I’m struck by the way Rich unconsciously portrays Obama’s election as a wonderful example of racial pride and achievement. Whites alone are now forbidden by contemporary racial etiquette to think in such terms.

2.) The same liberals who insist “race doesn’t exist” seem to have little difficulty making racial classifications – how odd.

3.) Obama is merely the latest in a long line of negro leaders – Kwame Nkrumah, Mugabe, Nelson Mandela, Idi Amin, Emperor Bokassa, Mobutu Sese Seko, Jomo Kenyatta, Hastings Banda, etc.

2009-01-18 17:35:17 The Observer

I’m not a paleoconservative.

2009-01-18 17:18:10 The Observer

Leigh Williams,

The term “racism” didn’t enter the English language until 1936. “Racism” wasn’t widely regarded as a social pathology in the West until a few generations ago. This insistence on the morality of non-discrimination is an even more recent innovation.

The major advantage of historical literacy is a heightened awareness of the fashionable trends and prejudices of one’s own times. I see little of this amongst liberals and progressives who regard artifacts of a passing phase of their own culture as a universally valid moral principle rather than mere opinion.

2009-01-18 17:10:52 The Observer

Leftist Bozo,

I haven’t said anywhere that colored people, uhm, or as you would say, “people of color” (this phrase was popularized in the 1980s), are racially inferior.

2009-01-18 16:52:15 The Observer

#531

1.) Yes, I follow American Renaissance, VDARE, Majority Rights, Steve Sailer, etc.

2.) I’m not an ideologue. I believe all religions and secular ideologies (including liberalism and humanism) are ultimately baseless.

3.) I’m familiar with Rushton, Lynn, Harpending, Cochran, Lahn, etc., but not really interested in their work.

2009-01-18 16:32:21 The Observer

Nerd,

I’m somewhat amused by how seriously you people take yourselves. You cling to your moral convictions re: race with all the ferocity of holy rollers. I guess I can’t understand how any historically literate person could do so.

2009-01-18 16:07:18 Observer

Isn’t it odd how liberals deny the existence of race, but insist on celebrating racial diversity?

2009-01-18 15:44:48 Various Observers

#533

I’m not a “radical traditionalist” or a “third positionist.” Also, I never bothered to read Evola or Pound. I have a low opinion of ideologues.

2009-01-18 15:10:29 Various Observers

#547

1.) I grew up in an area that is 50% white/50% negro.
2.) My views on race are based on personal experience.
3.) Re: social group. Yes.
4.) I have a blog.
5.) I voted for Ron Paul in the primaries. In the general election, I held my nose and voted for Chuck Baldwin solely because of his position on immigration.

2009-01-18 15:02:51 Observer Returns

My personal favorite is Emperor Jean-Bédel Bokassa. Meredith has a good profile of him in his book.

2009-01-17 19:21:44 Various Observers

#511

Robert Mugabe is another accomplished African leader. If I recall correctly, he has more degrees than Barack Obama.

2009-01-17 19:13:51 Various Observers

Colonialism is responsible for the poverty and backwardness of Ethiopia? That’s news to me.

2009-01-17 18:55:25 Sarcastic Observer

Jadehawk,

Where precisely does one “culture” become another?

2009-01-17 18:40:30 Sarcastic Observer

jack lecou,

1.) Your values exist within the framework of an ideology (liberalism) that has a long history.

2.) The Anglo-American race hierarchy wasn’t replicated in Latin America which was also enslaved and colonized.

3.) Hollywood aside, I haven’t seen this shattering of racial stereotypes. Sub-Saharan Africa is a basket case. Haiti is a failed state. Negroes are still typically less intelligent than whites and Asians.

2009-01-17 18:37:11 Kinda Bored Observer

Reader5000,

Please name all the distinct cultures that exist within the human species. Oh, thanks in advance.

2009-01-17 18:26:00 Bored Observer

Jadehawk,

Against the backdrop of human history, the level of “social equality” we see in the United States does not have many historical precedents. The identification of morality with non-discrimination is very fashionable, but also novel. That’s why it strikes me as “weird.”

2009-01-17 16:24:15 The Laughing Observer

Jadehawk,

I don’t believe that values or ultimate ends are derived from reason or natural science.

2009-01-17 16:11:11 The Laughing Observer

Jadehawk,

My point is this weird belief in “equality” is a tradition; to be exact, a republican one. I’m assuming you were raised in this tradition.

2009-01-17 16:05:47 Laughing Observer

Brownian,

Re: blood groups. IMO we could definitely do that one to. We can imagine a society that discriminated along those lines. That would be a fun scenario.

2009-01-17 15:59:54 Laughing Observer

“what’s your point exactly?”

I like to study the past and imagine other possibilities. I’m not impelled to demonize cultures other than my own.

2009-01-17 15:55:50 Laughing Observer

Jadehawk,

You’re attacking a straw man. I said nowhere that something is “good,” in the objective sense, because it is traditional or customary. I simply noted that your reverence for “equality” struck me as a custom which I compared to animal sacrifice in some cultures.

2009-01-17 15:51:32 Laughing Observer

Brownian,

If your values don’t come from natural science, where do they come from?

2009-01-17 15:45:43 Very Amused Observer

Travis,

We could easily pick something else. For example, we could judge people on the basis of the color of their skin plus other characteristics such as facial and skelatal morphology and hair texture.

2009-01-17 15:41:48 Laughing Observer

Jadehawk,

Human history is a chronicle of violent tribalism. I don’t see in-group altruism as evidence of any universal moral principle of non-discrimination.

2009-01-17 15:35:27 Laughing Observer

Jadehawk,

I’m neither a theist or a creationist. I haven’t seen any evidence that God exists. Similarly, I don’t see any evidence that leads me to believe that we should treat all races equally. This strikes me as a liberal superstition. It evolved out of the earlier Christian belief that humans are equal in the sight of God. The Quakers were amongst its first practicioners.

2009-01-17 15:29:26 Laughing Observer

Jadehawk,

Natural science has nothing to tell us about ethics. Skin color is a commonly cited morphological racial difference. Why shouldn’t we judge people based on the color their skin? It was once customary to do so.

2009-01-17 15:24:43 Amused Observer

The Founding Fathers were well acquainted with the theory that racial differences are environmental. Unlike Darwinism, it has an ancient pedigree. The abolitionists frequently made use of it in their propaganda during the 1790s.

2009-01-17 15:19:23 Amused Observer

Jadehawk,

We’re discussing moral beliefs here, not physiological differences.

2009-01-17 15:14:36 Amused Observer

Sorry, my error there.

2009-01-17 15:12:24 Amused Observer

Leftist Bozo,

I’m not following your reasoning. I don’t see how equal treatment is derived from the condition of being a Homo sapien. It sounds more like a custom to me. Animal sacrifice would be another example.

2009-01-17 15:10:40 Amused Observer

Brownian,

What is the basis of this moral belief in equality? Why should someone believe in equality as opposed to inequality?

2009-01-17 15:01:07 Brownian

Badger3k,

Do you acknowledge that the United States was founded by men whom you would call “racists”?

2009-01-17 14:55:02 Amused Observer

Leftist Bozo,

Your belief in “equality” is as arbitrary and baseless as the most deranged evangelical who believes dinosaurs were on Noah’s Ark.

2009-01-17 14:51:11 Amused Observer

Ignorant of what?

2009-01-17 14:30:08 Amused Observer

Just an observation: the liberals here cling to their substitute god (equality) even more tenaciously than even the most deluded followers of Ken Ham and Kent Hovind.

2009-01-17 14:26:47 Amused Observer

Sure.

Prejudice – Where to start? How about the accusation that ‘race realists’ are scum, hillbillies, white trash, rednecks, Kluxers, Neo-Nazis, etc.

Bigotry – A bigot is someone who is “intolerant of opinions, lifestyles or identities differing from his or her own.” The incivility of the commentators above speaks for itself.

Stereotypes – You’re Nazis, trailer trash, rednecks and so on.

2009-01-17 14:21:26 Amused Observer

I read through the first 100+ comments on this thread. What struck me immediately was the sheer volume of bigotry and prejudice, epithets, closemindedness, insults, and stereotypes of the liberal commentators.

2009-01-17 14:06:22 Amused Observer
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TGGP,

I think that would be a step up the ladder - so yes. Something needs to be done about the stupidity of the American voter.
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